I witnessed Mr. Caylor on March 16th and was appalled at what I saw, he is a complete fraud and brings ridicule to a subject i believe in very strongly, i am a working Medium in Hereford and unfortunatly i myself going upon recomendation went to see him in the belief that he was genuine. Sadly, watching his demonstration of Physical Mediumship was abit like watching a puppet show in a darkened room. He, in my opinion, used his entourage to achieve his illusions thus conning the paying audience. As a working medium i know spirit when i see spirit and that was not spirit, making a mockery of all the hard work genuine mediums do. Sadly, Mr. Caylor, in my opinion is not a genuine medium rather more genuine conman. The reason i have posted this message is this site asks why genuine mediums had not protested against him, well, here's one that is.

Personally I think Psychics/mediums etc are mis-guided, for entertainment use only says a lot in itself, in that NO-ONE has been able to prove in psychic/mediumship etc abilities. From my experience I was going through a tuff time, which resulted in attending one to one psychic readings and also ringing some psychic telephone line services, quite a few to be honest, but not all at once, usually a month or two after my received predictions didnt come true. Which would then result in a whole new bunch of predictions, which again didnt come true.

I think it was a phase along with myself and a tone of friends who have all has a number of psychic/medium and clairvoyant readings over the years. Net result all were wrong, not just for myself, but all of my friends have said they've never had a reader who has been correct. This includes, psychic events, spiritual churches, one to one psychic readings and telephone psychic readings. But as you would expect they all laugh it off now as being a complete scam.

But there is a benefit, after speaking to my friends and with my own personal experiences, I really can completely spot a hoax reader a mile away. Most I have found especially telephone psychics are dishonest, and simply just want to keep you on the telephone to make money.

Everything and I mean everything is going to happen within 3 months, occasionally 4, but nearly always 3 months or they will say within 12 weeks, or if its 14th October now, they will say look out for February. ie 3 months. Only after having a few readings will you notice the common denominator, certainly scripted. Never have I hit a scenario of something is going to happen next week, though I did have one for 7 - 17 days, didnt happen.

The problem with telephone readings is the apparent psychic, medium etc, leaves everything wide open so they can never be wrong.

A reader may say who is having the baby, your answer, dont know because you dont, their answer, watch out for it you will hear something. Or your answer may be after doing a little thinking you think of someone who is having a baby. wow ooohhh psychic, nope sadly not. There answer cannot be wrong.

Another good example would be a reader says to you, I can see the month of ie June, October or February signify a birthday, a celebration or anniversary. Tkae your parents, you grand parents, your brother / sisters or you wifes side of the family. If you looked across your family tree I am sure you would be able to find a link associated with a birthday etc for the matching months.

Another good example is you see a one to one reader, you sit opposite or beside them. They hold your hand, and then say a few moments later, I can see paper round you, you work in a office. Guess what I had soft hands. But I was out of work for 4 years, so I immagine why my hands were soft, house wife, fairy liquid.

During my tough time, out of work for some 4 years, I simply could not find another job, how many readers picked up on me being out work, honestly not one. In the past I had made quite alot of money so was able to survive of my interest off my savings. Did a psychic pick up on this too, no. Did alot of my readings say, I can see a promotion in work yes, and yes nearly always within 3 months. But I wasnt working.

Of course, they will say I cannot be linking in with you, but quite worryingly you have been on the telephone for some 15 minutes already. I've lost count of the many times I was going to have a lottery win, or come into some inheritance. Along with moving to the country side, with sound of water nearby.

Of course all my predictions were wrong and didnt happen at all.

So why to people feel compelled to ring a psychic, unfortunately its usually and I am 99% certain in my thinking it is solely when someone is going through some emotional upheaval. Job, relationship, money etc. So you want to here if everything is going to be OK. ie your asking to predict the future, you really dont want to know what happened 2 weeks ago, the reading would be pointless. What you do want to know if the future is OK, in reallity a prediction which is where psychics come in, but as exerience has told my, all psychic tell you what you want to hear, its only months down the line you realise it was complete rubbish. Your dreams a deminished.

No-one can predict the future, no-one can tell you what is, or what may happen. A may happen says it all, as does the excuse of free will, ie we have the free will to change or stop something from happening. If that is the case, then why doesnt a reader tell you, anything they say, may not ever happen. They wouldnt for obvious reasons.

How do you spot a hoax reader, if they go into telling you what is going to happen in the future, do not be affraid to ask them to show they are psychic, as with many people I know, individuals feel scared to ask for proof, in doing so, as I found readers tend to get angry. Dont be be blunt or rule, simple say, during the ready, how many brothers and sisters do I have? So if a reader can tell you your going to get a promotion, or come into some money, described in quite some detail you new house, number of bedrooms etc then ask something you already know, for example, one of the following.

Do you see how many brothers or sisters I have?
What number is my house?
What is my mothers maiden name initial?
If they link with a past family member ask for that persons name, or firstname initial?
What is my wifes name?
What did I have for tea last night?
When did I meat my partner?
What was the house number of house I was brought up in?
What is the name or first letter of the town I live in?

OK these are just examples, but in my experience, no psychic, medium etc has got it right once, normally they try to cover this up by saying I'm not getting it.

If the reader cannot get any right, would you be right in thinking there predictions are incorrect too, yep they will be. Would you then be right in thinking, hey that person is a hoax con artist, yup, you would be right too.

From my personal experience I have honestly never found a genuine psychic/medium/clairvoyant. If you ring a reader, the first thing they will ask is for your name and then your DOB to confirm your over the age of 18. Name of course, they want to know who they are speaking to. DOB, erm I though you were psychic / clairvoyant and you have to ask to see if I am 18 or older.

Anyone spot the deliberate mistake.

I remember going to a recommended reader one to one and also a psychic church with my brother, we dont look alike. But have the same mother / father, one said to my brother, you have been friends with you friend for a few years now, the one to one reading said to me and my brother at separate times that we worked together. Not one picked up on us being brothers, and we are 100% certified blood brothers, same mum and dad. Sadly another not psychic experience.

I also saw a thread from Craig here: (this site followed by the forward slash, then PSYCHICS and a forward slash again, followed by OUIJABOARDS then a FULL STOP followed by the H T M L, but with now spaces.

Near the bottom, the third quote says: Don't ask it questions about the future, because the spirit world can't tell you about the future.

Sadly doesnt this go for Psychics too, definately, so in reality NO reader can tell you anything about the future, as Craig says himself.

One this basic what relevance do psychic reading have, if they are not able to tell you about future events. NONE. So in answer to the original question of ARE TELEPHONE PSYCHICS REAL? Sadly not. They just simply are not.

Sorry but anyone who says they are, are deluded. I found out the hard way, lets just say thousands of pounds. Though I would pay it again, if I could find 1 person who could give a psychic reading.

Unfortunately I hear time and time again where people have been for a psychic reading and the final result was nothing came true. Those who say I am psychic and I give genuine psychic readers, sadly you may think you do, but they are honest not psychic, your just not.

I am a believer not a sceptic at all hence the thousands of pounds I have spent trying to find accurate psychic reader and like I said if I could find one accurate reader I would gladly spend the money again, because I am not sceptic, I just know many are bleeding for profit.

Final note.

Anyone who is experiencing turmoil of some description in their lives, if you do persue a psychic/medium or clairvoyant reading, PLEASE PLEASE take it with a pinch of salt. Personally when I was down, I mean really down, Readings were really good for one reason, a pick me up, reassurance of everything was going to be OK but nothing more.

But sadly when things don?t come true and they really wont, please do not dismay. Being out of work wasn?t half as bad and finding out things didn?t happen when I so really needed them to, even after being told they would.

Honestly psychic readings are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, and can REALLY MESS UP YOUR LIFE, if you are in so much turmoil you believe that what the psychic has said to be true. In your mind, even if you don?t mean to be, you can become reliant and what the reader said. As a result I was so borderline to doing something extremely stupid, due to the disappointment and thousands of pounds out of pocket.

And when things don?t happen, you feel SOO LET DOWN, except now you have spent month ie one pound fifty per minute a lot of money for nothing, when you needed it most. But you think its money well spent and all your efforts and constant searching will prevail in 3 months etc, but it wont. Well it might, just because it did, nothing to do with a reader being correct.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE PLEASE, BE CAREFULL WHEN HAVING A READING.

NONE OF MY READINGS OR FRIENDS READING EVER CAME TRUE. Sadly all I can say is, life is what it is and can sometimes be extremely uncaring, even to those who simply do not deserve it.

Keep your head up high and keep going until the storm passes, like a said a being told by a reader everything is going to be great is all well for a pick me up at the time but nothing more.

I have seen many posts on here over the time, some that I myself have put on, only to find some days/weeks later they are deleted. As I recall non were offensive, just honest individuals experiences.

Deleting such posts kind of makes all the Forums pointless, cherry picking to make psychics etc look good and deleting the bad experiences is not good at all.

Why delete? If someone is slandering a individual ie by name then I can understand why.

just to note here - there is a difference between a medium and a psychic - a psychic reads the person - a medium reads for spirit - and that can be further categorised - into mental and physical mediumship

there are very few physical mediums around now - quite simply because the training takes years. however i believe there are some very good tracts and texts confirming the abilities of these mediums from years back - many modern mediums work with science to promote the learning of spirit and to explain these phenomina

love n light
enna xxxxxxxx

JonDonnis wrote:

You know the sort, Helen Duncan style spirit cabinets, manefestations, ectoplasm and all that nonsense. Well if you thought that was best left in the early 20th centuary you would be well wrong. Right now today at Jennys Sanctuary and similar places we have mediums like Stewart Alexander, Warren Caylor, David Thompson, all doing the same old parlour tricks that were being done 100 years ago. YET peopel are still being fooled, I know a very smart lawyer, who believers in all of it. These arentgullible old women (well some are) these are intelligent people. So whats going on? The latest news is that at Banbury, Warren Caylor is conducting seances in lit rooms, light enough for people to see things happening from 9 foot away. Of course no one bothers to switch a camera on and film. Caylor is famous for his searches, he even uses a metal detector on people going in seances to make sure no one sneaks anything in. So what do you think? And if this is all fraudulent as i suspect, why arent the real mediums trying to put a stop to it?

Manifestations do happen under the right conditions and can be very intense. I've seen them, where they definetly weren't wanted before. I've never deliberately enduced one or seen anyone do it, but if one can create the right conditions and the spirits are willing I see no reason why it couldn't be done.

I'm sure there are frauds who claim to do it as well as people who can genuinly do it. As for why don't real mediums stop it, what can they do (legally) in a society that thinks that anything that doesn't fit modern science is impossible.

Hi all xx, I'd just like to add my oppinion to a few points if I may.

First of all Jon, I would like to say that not all mediums who do physical demonstrations are frauds and tricksters. I myself sit in a physical circle. I sit with several others all of whom I trust and know, we sit for spirit and for the further development of our medium. All of the conditions are checked and double checked before the circle commences. I can say with all honesty that I know for a fact that there is no trickery within our circle.

I have to say at this point that I am the kind of person who looks for deceptions or possible ways people can be deceived and within our circle I have seen nothing to raise my concern.

I have however seen and felt things to give me total and utter proof that we survive after the death of our physical body. I have seen many different people transfigure within our circle one of whom was my husbands late grandfather someone our medium has never met. Everyone else saw what I saw as I asked each of them for a description of what they saw just to make sure that I wasn't seeing what I wanted to see. They all gave a description of my husbands grandfather a man that only one other person in the circle had seen before. And just to alleviate any doubts the other person is my mother and I know she would never try to deceive me, it's not within her nature.

I have heard of fraudsters out there and it's a shame that we always seem to get tarred with the same brush. If you got food poisoning from one resteraunt would you say don't eat at any resteraunt as you'll get poisoned? I doubt it, so please don't blame all of us for a handful of deceiptful people who pretend to be mediums.

I recently went to see a physical demonstration, can't remember the mediums name. There was some interesting things that happened but unfortunately in my eyes too many things were left in a position to cause me to doubt. I am not saying that he was not genuine as I truly do not know, what I am saying is I saw things that could of been faked. If the phenomena was for real then they need to look at their set up and change a few things to alleviate any doubt.


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Hi again , now for my second point.

Robson, I am very sorry to hear that you have had such bad experiences with psychics/mediums but again I have to say please do not tar us all with the same brush.

As I've stated in this forum before not all psychics and mediums are fraudsters or people who are out to make a quick buck by scamming people. There are a whole lot of us who are honest, law abiding citizens who would not dream of lying, cheating or claiming that we can predict the future.

As Enna said there are differences between psychics and mediums.

Psychic's can pick up information from you, your past, your present, your personlity, your desires etc. but they cannot predict the future, they can however add up all the facts they've picked up from you and on a sub-concious level guestimate (to pinch a word from Vi but it's such a good description) your future.

Mediums are the intermediary between spirit and the living, their aims are not to predict, diagnose, prescribe or tell people how to live their lives or what decisions they should make. Their aims are in fact to give evidence of survival and there by bring comfort and peace of mind that life is truly eternal.

I have to say that yes mediums do on occasion get glimses of what is to come but they are not actually the ones who see it, spirit are the ones who see it and then show the medium. Unfortunately they are not allowed to give off what they see because of the law of the land (fraudulent mediums act).

When they do get glimses the best way to describe it is how it was described to me( I can't remember the exact words I'm afraid ). Imagine you are at the foot of a mountain looking out into the distance you would not see very far. But if you are higher on that mountain you can see a little further into the distance, you may be able to see someone in the distance walking towards the mountain you may see some danger before them like a hole in the road. You could shout out and warn them of what you see but it is upto them whether they stay on the path or detour round the danger.

You have a go about people saying you have free will, well I'm sorry but you do and you can change the out come of things. I was once told by a medium (yes I know she shouldn't predict but she told me in private and not off the rostrum) that I was trying for a baby (a fact only known to me and my hubby) I was told that I'd be pregnant by December and that it was a boy. All the things she said were spot on, but I could have changed it if I'd chosen to do so. I could have stopped trying or had my tubes tied or got my hubby to get the snip, I could have stopped it in numerous ways had I wished to do so.


I do agree with you though when you say that people should be careful when having a reading. If people would only take the time to look up reputable mediums or psychics before they lay down their hard earned cash it would make things easier for the honest ones out there. Too many times people have been scammed and then gone on to blame all psychics, mediums or spiritualists in general when it's not their fault.

My note to everyone is please dont look to psychics or mediums for advice on how to live your life or for what the future holds. This is your life so live it to the best of your ability, just remember that we are all resposible for our own actions.

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